The lady I called about getting rooftop solar panels asked me why I was interested. She laughed when I said I’m not sanguine about bidding against Jeff Bezos for electricity. #DataCenters
Recommended is the latest episode of the Tech Won't Save Us podcast, in which @parismarx discusses digital sovereignty with Prof. Cecilia Rikap from UCL. Stimulating listening -- and a reminder that the dominance of US tech (and increasingly China) is a problem for everyone else.
Why Countries Must Fight For Digital Sovereignty
https://techwontsave.us/episode/290_why_countries_must_fight_for_digital_sovereignty_w_cecilia_rikap
Related reading from Rikap et al (2024)
https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/10202865 #DigitalSovereignty #datacenters #cloud #tech #SiliconValley
‘The Al-for-science view leads us to think we are exploring the full range of possibilities and that we've understood much more deeply than we have. With systems trained on past data and practices, both shaped by far-from-inclusive viewpoints, the visible possibilities are narrow indeed. This reminds us of the parable of the person who searches for her keys under the streetlamp in the dead of night. When asked where she dropped her keys, she responds, "About five yards that way, but the streetlamp is over here." Al-for-science makes us think we can find our keys by limiting our view to only those sidewalks illuminated by the glow of the data centers powering it.’ - The AI Con, Emily M Bender and Alex Hanna
#datacenters #ai #scams
@adamr This. And we are manipulated to forget the horrible impact on environment by #datacenters wasting a huge amount of energy and drinking water.
#DataCentres to be expanded across #UK as concerns mount
Zoe Kleinman & Krystina Shveda, August 22, 2025
"The number of data centres in the UK is set to increase by almost a fifth, according to figures shared with BBC News.
"Data centres are giant warehouses full of powerful computers used to run digital services from #MovieStreaming to online banking - there are currently an estimated 477 of them in the UK.
"Construction researchers Barbour ABI have analysed planning documents and say that number is set to jump by almost 100, as the growth in artificial intelligence (AI) increases the need for processing power.
"The majority are due to be built in the next five years.
"However, there are concerns about the huge amount of energy and water the new data centres will consume.
"Some experts have warned it could drive up prices paid by consumers.
"More than half of the new data centres would be in #London and neighbouring counties.
"Many are privately funded by US #TechGiants such as #Google and #Microsoft and major investment firms.
A further nine are planned in #Wales, one in #Scotland, five in #GreaterManchester and a handful in other parts of the UK, the data shows.
"While the new data centres are mostly due for completion by 2030, the biggest single one planned would come later - a £10-billion AI data centre in #Blyth, near #Newcastle, for the American private #investment and wealth management company #BlackstoneGroup.
"It would involve building 10 giant buildings covering 540,000 square meters - the size of several large shopping centres - on the site of a former Blyth Power Station.
"Works are set to begin in 2031 and last for more than three years.
"Microsoft is planning four new data centres in the UK at a total cost of £330 million, with an estimated completion between 2027 and 2029 - two in the Leeds area, one near #Newport in Wales, and a five-storey site in #Acton, north west London.
"And Google is building two data centres, totalling £450m, spread over 400,000 sq m in north east London in the #LeeValley water system."
Read more:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyr9nx0jrzo
Archived version:
https://archive.ph/GukDh
"In 2023, Google operations worldwide consumed 6.4 billion gallons of water (24.2 billion liters), with 95%, 6.1 billion gallons (23.1 billion liters), used by data centers. Google reports that in 2024, the company’s data center in Council Bluffs, Iowa, consumed 1 billion gallons of water (3.8 billion liters), the most of any of its data centers."
https://www.digitalinformationworld.com/2025/08/inside-water-crisis-of-data-centers.html
@TheConversationUS And the direct link for all who have disabled these tracking monsters: https://theconversation.com/data-centers-consume-massive-amounts-of-water-companies-rarely-tell-the-public-exactly-how-much-262901 by @ConversationUS
"Data centers for AI and cloud computing don’t just use a lot of electricity – they also use enormous quantities of water as well, to cool down all those servers."
So, data centers do not have to use water-consuming cooling systems. They have choices.
"The annual meeting of state utility regulators is typically a humdrum affair of dry speeches and panel discussions. But in November, the scene at the Marriott in Anaheim, Calif., had a bit more flash.
The conference’s top sponsors included the nation’s biggest tech companies — Amazon, Microsoft and Google. Their executives sat on panels, and the companies’ branding was plastered on product booths and at networking events. Even the lanyards around attendees’ necks were stamped with Google’s colorful logo.
Just a few years ago, tech companies were minor players in energy, making investments in solar and wind farms to rein in their growing carbon footprints and placate customers concerned about climate change. But now, they are changing the face of the U.S. power industry and blurring the line between energy consumer and energy producer. They have morphed into some of energy’s most dominant players.
They have set up subsidiaries that invest in power generation and sell electricity. Much of the energy they produce is bought by utilities and then delivered to homes and businesses, including the tech companies themselves. Their operations and investments dwarf those of many traditional utilities.
But the tech industry’s all-out artificial intelligence push is fueling soaring demand for electricity to run data centers that dot the landscape in Virginia, Ohio and other states. Large, rectangular buildings packed with servers consumed more than 4 percent of the nation’s electricity in 2023, and government analysts estimate that will increase to as much as 12 percent in just three years. That’s partly because computers training and running A.I. systems consume far more energy than machines that stream Netflix or TikTok."
Some good news? What would have been the largest data center corridor in the world, in the outer suburbs of #DC, just got blocked by a judge. Big WIN for opponents of data centers!
There’s also a delicious irony here. It wasn’t blocked on the merits. It was blocked because the developers and their Corporate Democrat allies tried to push this through despite clear public opposition. And they played fast and loose with the rules. 1/2
#DataCentres to be expanded across #UK as concerns mount
by Zoe Kleinman & Krystina Shveda
8/14/2025
"Data centres, like this one #Google is building in #Hertfordshire, are becoming a more familiar sight across the UK
The number of data centres in the UK is set to increase by almost a fifth, according to figures shared with BBC News.
"Data centres are giant warehouses full of powerful computers used to run digital services from movie streaming to online banking - there are currently an estimated 477 of them in the UK.
"Construction researchers Barbour ABI have analysed planning documents and say that number is set to jump by almost 100, as the growth in artificial intelligence (#AI) increases the need for processing power.
"The majority are due to be built in the next five years.
"However, there are concerns about the huge amount of energy and water the new data centres will consume.
"Some experts have warned it could drive up prices paid by #consumers.
More than half of the new data centres would be in London and neighbouring counties.
"Many are privately funded by US #TechGiants such as Google and Microsoft and major #investment firms.
"A further nine are planned in Wales, one in #Scotland, five in #GreaterManchester and a handful in other parts of the UK, the data shows.
"While the new data centres are mostly due for completion by 2030, the biggest single one planned would come later - a £10-billion AI data centre in #Blyth, near #Newcastle, for the American private investment and wealth management company #Blackstone Group.
"It would involve building 10 giant buildings covering 540,000 square meters - the size of several large shopping centres - on the site of a former #BlythPowerStation.
"Works are set to begin in 2031 and last for more than three years.
"#Microsoft is planning four new data centres in the UK at a total cost of £330 million, with an estimated completion between 2027 and 2029 - two in the #Leeds area, one near Newport in #Wales, and a five-storey site in Acton, north west London.
"And Google is building two data centres, totalling £450m, spread over 400,000 sq m in north east London in the #LeeValley water system."
Read more:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyr9nx0jrzo
Archived version:
https://archive.ph/GukDh
@paul @GhostOnTheHalfShell @SallyStrange
Sorry to hear it. But thx for your activism. If we all do as you, it will spread the word & strengthen backbones.
When I read the Louisa County story, I shared it w/my sister who used to live in the area & she confirmed her electric bill where she is now is much cheaper. Then I found out there are many more #datacenters than I ever imagined in this area. We mostly don't even know it's happening. As in Louisa Co., it's often happening sub-rosa.