@delta so yeah, #deltaChat does proper #E2EE with #SelfCustody in a #decentralozed, #SelfHosting capable fashion.

• Whilst one may argue that #IMAP & #SMTP as well as #PGP/MIME were never "designed" for that, they do work reliably, don't require much cooperation (cuz even the strictest #CGNAT allows #eMail!) and can be transparently shoved through #VPN|s & @torproject / #Tor without much fuss.

Plus the "store & forward" architecture of #eMail lends itself to #AsynchronousCommunication, making it a good option when people need to "keep it brief"...

• Add to that existing technologies like "#DataMule" style units to provide almost-#airgapped communities with "high bandwith, high lantency" connections as well as #SATCOM, I'd not be surprised if delta chat would work excellent everywhere on the planet - regardless if using #Iridum in #Antarctica, 10GBit/s FTTH in Sweden or uucp in Western Sahara.

@Vivaldi The integrated #Mail client. Though I need to say that I'm patiently hoping for more support for #imap folders (creation, moving, subfolders, naming convention,... ). And are we still missing #davx sync for the contacts?

3/5 Right now, Exchange requires add-ons to work. Usually this means TbSync or OWL. Each of these has its own set of features and limitations to consider. Account Hub will show you Exchange in two flavors… one says “add-on required” and the other doesn’t. It’s the latter one that is the native integration in experimental form at this time (and does email ONLY for now).

2/5 Further, the “native” connection to EWS/OWA within Thunderbird is only available in 140 when you enable a custom setting (search for “ews”). What you see in the new Account Hub will depend on whether that custom setting is enabled.

5/5 TbSync was a small challenge because, as has happened in the past with major Thunderbird updates, it was declared unsupported and automatically disabled by Thunderbird 140esr. Following the instructions in https://github.com/jobisoft/TbSync/issues/753#issuecomment-3051737579 (file-based reinstall of TbSync and EAS-4-TbSync) resolves the issue for now.

4/5 Until now, I have been using IMAP+SMTP, and TbSync for address books and calendars. After going through a few iterations, I have now settled on using Exchange (native, experimental) accounts (yes, plural) for email and sticking with TbSync for calendars and address books.

1/5 @padraig @thunderbird Took a little searching but I am working again! Yay. The complexity is that which setup to use with Exchange can be legacy (POP3, IMAP+SMTP, EAS, EWS/OWA) or current Graph API. Thunderbird 140 supports all of the legacy API but not yet Graph API.

@lukasp @Lioh well, that deoends on what you want to use.

@monocles offers two options:

#Chat (#XMPP) & #eMail (#IMAP+#SMTP) and another one with @nextcloud and #Mastodon included.

https://docs.monocles.eu/account/account/#comparison_chart

@timixretroplays yikes...

Tho granted all #Freemailers are shit and some like https://web.de & https://gmx.de do force people to login on their website so their accounts don't get wiped.

• They also do the dick move of disabling #IMAP & #SMTP per default (at leadt they don't paywall it like @protonprivacy does!)

Personally I use #aliases & forwarder for inbound eMails.

@Linux for @monocles it's about their mail & messaging solutions which are subscription-financed and in return just work on any devices as well as their nextcloud.

• They also offer apps for those, and the #monoclesChat & #monoclesMail #apps can be used with any #XMPP and any #eMail provider that offers #IMAP & #SMTP respectably.

• Also they allow for fully anonymous payment using #Monero and #CashByMail.

The ither two I can understand fully...

@delta @madsee34583 AFAIK you could use any mailserver pending it does #IMAP & #SMTP.

• You may want to get some decent one from a reputable webhoster as #Freemailers tend to severely limit the amount of messages to make their accounts useless for #Spammers...

Not shure what @monocles / https://mail.monocles.eu has as limits tho.