@adisonverlice even if an #MVNO isn't demanding any #KYC whatsoever (i.e. #prepaid are offered OTC in most juristictions) it's NOT "#Anonymous" but merely #pseudonymous as it's trivial for governments to utilize existing and mandtory "#LawfulInterception" appliances to create that #PII chain.

#PhoneNumber <=> #ICCID (#SIMcard) <=> #IMSI (SIM profile) <=> #IMEI (Phone/...).

So if #Anonymity is important, NONE of these details have to be linked somehow even circumstantial.

• Bought/paid for the phone/SIM/ a single top-up with ec/CC/PayPal/SEPA/… = busted due to circumstantial connection.

• Use the SIM in any device? Consider them circumstantially connected forever: #ICCID <=> #IMEI.

• Same applies to #eSIM|s: #EID <=> #ICCID <=> #IMEI.

Add to the fact that most places have #CCTV, and assume that they'll keep recordings for the maximum permissible duration if not longer and oftentimes even use questionable cloud services and you get the picture.

• I.e. in Germany the maximum permissible storage duration is 72 hours (if nothing hapoens that warrants a longer storage i.e. burglary/theft/robbery/arson/...) so anonymous top-ups would necessitate paying cash at a place one's not been known at (i.e. some kiosk) and waiting at least >72 hours (and checking on the purchase location) before redeeming the top-up code (i.e. dialing *104*1234567890123456# )...

So any #privacy-based service should never ever & under no circumstances demand a Phone Number!

• Instead any privacy-focussed service should use #OnionServices, host their own #OnionService or at least #DontBlockTor and allow users to use it via @torproject / #Tor to use and signup. (But don't forget circumstantial connections there either!)

• Also the less details they want or store and the least traffic they generate the harder it is to correlate traffic & users.

@OhMyGod Remember: ANY "#KYC" in terms of #Messenger| #Apps IS the #IllicitActivity!

Regardless if @matrix or @signalapp , the sheer request, demand or coercion onto #PII like a #PhoneNumber or #eMail-Address is bad.

• If providers like @mullvadnet can do a #VPN without any PII and can offer their Service via @torproject / #Tor and host their Website as #OnionService, then there's no good reason for others not to do the same.

Personally, I'll recommend to switch to some real #E2EE with good #SelfHosting options like @delta / #deltaChat [which uses #PGP/MIME) or @monocles / #monoclesChat (which is based upon #XMPP+#OMEMO and who do host their own servers which are user-financed and can be paid for 100% anonymously.

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@artfulmodder last time I checked @signalapp still demanded #PII in.the form of a #PhoneNumber, still peddled the #MobileCoin #Shitcoin #Scam and didn't move out of the #Cyberfacist #USA despite #CloudAct being nothing new!

• Not to mention #Signal is both able and willing to discriminate against users based off said PII. Just because they do it for "#Sanctions #Compliance" diesn't mean they ain't gonna change that nor that @Mer__edith (or anyone else at Signal) could be bribed or threatened to do so.

They are #centralized #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider and are thus a #SinglePointOfFailure per design!

• Unlike @delta (which is #PGP/MIME in a different UI) or #XMPP+#OMEMO (which you can use via @torproject / #Tor and connect to a Server that is an #OnionService.

IMHO "memory tagging" is the least of Signal's problems. To me they stench "#ControlledOpposition" just as hard as #ANØM and incompetence as hard as #EncroChat!

@Cappyjax IDGAF about "passion". All I care about is the security of users!

Requiring any #PII like a #PhoneNumber is inacceptable when it comes to #ComSec, #InfoSec & #OpSec, espechally given @signalapp is not only able but entirely willing to restrict service based off said numbers, making their "solution" insecure by design.

• There's a reason why #XMPP+#OMEMO and #PGP/MIME [both each over @torproject / #Tor] is the evidently superior and more secure approach, as being unable to "#KYC" a user is a matter of security...

Espechally since obtaining a phone number anonymously is oftentimes illegal (i.e. #Germany made it illegal starting 07/2017, so using any service that demands a phone numner is out of question)

• And even if one can get an anonymous #SIM (with a phone number) or god forbid #eSIM, (which is at best pseudonymous as tracking down users by virtue of matching ICCID, IMEI & IMSI to location and time) the chances are high that one ends up with recycled phone numbers that have already been used.

Obviously the devs of #Signal and @Mer__edith are well aware of this critical flaw, which is why I consider them to act as "useful idiots" or rather "controlled opposition" as #Signal could've been shutdown trivially by the #US Government or forced into banning users based off their #PhoneNumbers (they may call this "#sanctions #compliance" given they added a #Shitcoin - Wallet into Signal!)...

• All the "but #Metadata" #FUD turns into #MarketingLies once put under the looking glass and examined against the risk of state-sponsored / -endordsed / -supported attackers.

Whereas with @monocles / #monoclesChat, @gajim / #gajim and @delta / #deltaChat and @thunderbird / #Thunderbird respectably I can not only use Tor, but do #SelfHosting for the entire #communications infrastructure (i.e. using an #OnionService = only reachable via Tor) and get the advantages of a self-routing, self-authenticating & battle-hardened against censorship proxy network that can't be shutdown!

• And if you think this is too tinfoilhatted, then consider yourself privilegued enough of having your mere existance not being criminalized by the government under threat of public execution!

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@lukeshu So I guess #Anubis has an explicit exception to handle #Lynx and will instead rely on rate-limits and other static means to detect #scrapers and handle with #UserAgent #abuse cases, like #fail2ban-style autobanning of violating IPs...

• This makes sense for a #WAF like Anubis and would've been the only viable option I'm aware of.

I wounder if anyone has tried using Anubis on @torproject / #Tor to protect #OnionService|s since that would be a reasonable application for it as well.

@woffs @stefanmuelller wenn die von @tazgetroete ist werd' ich die in meine Liste an #OnionService|s packen...

@stefanmuelller @tazgetroete was ich hoffe: #taz macht nen #OnionService auf und verweigert sich #Schutzgelderpressern wie #ClownFlare weiterhin!

@debby that assumes @protonprivacy actually cares about #Privacy, which they evidently don't, cuz otherwise they'd never even #log or #request any #PII to begin with and instead offer their Services via @torproject / #Tor as #OnionService…

• Not to mention they fuck around with customers' #eMails, thus having prevented people from contributing to the #LKML in the past...

To me this isn't a big loss, but a conditionless surrender in favour of better competitiors like @monocles and even @Stuxhost for that matter...

@pixelcode @taylan Your nonchalant "So what?" gets people publicly murdered by the state in many juristictions...

• Which is why there is no substitute to teaching proper #TechLiteracy ffs!

If things were so easy as in "JuSt UsE sIgNaL!" then @signalapp would be shut down.

• Or do you really think that in a world where multi-year long sting ops like #ANØM / #OperationIronside / #OperationTrøjanShield get greenlit that @Mer__edith would risk dying of old age in jail for non-paying users?

If you do think so then you should really get some professional help, cuz you seem rather lost...

• #Signal doesn't even bother to have an #OnionService, much less to provide means to use their service without self-doxxing with a #PhoneNumber, which at best is pseudonymous and requires money to attain and maintain...

It's #centralization is an absolute nightmare and mist be deemed as criminally neglectful!

@Andromxda @pixelcode How can you claim something you can't evidence?

• Pretty shure if it's not @signalapp themselves, then their centralized architecture and unwillingness to even have an #OnionService on @torproject makes it trivial to pull a #Room641A on them.

It makes you look like one of those folks shilling #VPN|s that ain't logless after all...

• I don't believe in #marketing #lies and #Signal can't (and won't) be able to evidence that they don't log shit.

At least they should be honest about things and not claim bs, cuz demanding a #PhoneNumber is just #KYC with extra steps like demanding any #SSN or other #PII. Makes them look like chinese MMORPGs that demand ID card numbers for account signups, thus #paywalling the ability to use their service anonymously...

@signalapp It's not #disinfo when one points out that you demand #PII aka. #PhoneNumbers from Users and that is literally a architectural vulnerability, alongside your #proprietary & #Centralized #Infrastructure.

• #Signal being a #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider #Solution is literally the reason why I consider it #insecure.

Not to mention the lack of @torproject / #Tor support with an #OnionService or the willingness to fulfill #cyberfacist "Embargoes" or shilling a #Shitcoin #Scam named #MobileCoin!

• #KYC is the illicit activity!!!

And don't get me started on the #cyberfacism that is #CloudAct.

• If you were secure, criminals would've used your platform so hard, it would've been shutdown like #EncroChat and #SkyECC.

I may nit have allvthe.evidence yet, but #Signal stenches like #ANØM: #Honeypot-esque!

@froge @forthy42 @fj to me, @signalapp being centralized and not even doing tue absolute minimum of supporting @torproject / #Tor and having at least an #OnionService as #API-Endpoint makes them #UsefulIdiots.

It's several things like that that rubvme the wrong way and that make it uncomfortable.

@ckrypto if@signalapp@mastodon.world wasn't complying with #CloudAct, @Mer__edith would be in jail.

Not to mention even if Signal keeps their "#OpenSource" code updated - which is doubtful, NOONE can actually #verify that it's the code you actually use - regardless if #backend / #Server or #client / #App!

• #Signal is as secure as #ANØM, otherwise it would've been shutdown ages ago.

Also if Signal was designed for #security, it would've been #decentralized as #XMPP+#OMEMO and not demand #PII like #PhoneNumbers which oftentimes cannot be obtained anonymously in many juristictions at all!

• Only #MultiVendor & #MultiProvider standards can be secure, regardless if OMEMO or #PGP/MIME.

By comparison, @delta doesn't require any PII, only an #eMail account, and @monocles isn't a #VCmoneyBurningParty but sustainable due to #subscription and they don't even require any personal details for #payment: #CashByMail and #Monero are accepted.

• Not to mention neither #DeltaChat nor #monoclesChat are pandering #Shitcoin #Scams like #MobileCoin that don't work even for #TechLiterate #CryptoBros!

Again: It's Signal alone who have to evidence they are trustworthy, and all I get are "#TrustMeBro!" replies, which means they are not to be trusted.

• Not to mention, it's just not sustainable to run a #service without #revenue, even if it's run entirely by unpaid volunteers and gets all it's #hosting and #costs donated, someone has to pay for expenses due to #abuse of a service (which is an inevitability come mass adoption)...

Whereas with #XMPP I can completely setup my own server and client, even build my own if I don't trust anyone else and pay someone to audit the code.

• Signal as a #centralized, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider service is inevitable vulnerable to #RubberhoseCryptoanalysis, and #Meredith will break if not doing so means jail for life until she does!

Whereas with XMPP & PGP/MIME #eMail I can layer @torproject / #Tor over it, make it an #OnionService and keep that thing under my bed with a literal killswitch...

@CppGuy @fesshole the only thibg you can do is force Google to nuke history and take it as lession to use #DuckDuckGo's #OnionService on @torproject / #TorBrowser instead.

@Natanox @ccc@anonsys.net @chaosupdates @CCC@social.bau-ha.us @ccc@chaos.social @ccchh leider ist m2ylflyeak6i6o4hsfwcrfwcq2bbjxk6nf2rnmm7fu6qiuu3hybenzid.onion / http://jabber.ccc.de #OnionService immernoch down!